I’m not sure what to say on this one.
Let’s get things straight. We were ok in the first half, whereas Albion were poor in my opinion.
The opposition had no answer to the pace of Gabby and N’zogbia and were basically run ragged.
Hence we went in at half time, leading 2-0.
Rightly so, as Albion looked off the pace and the poor side that they have been for the last few games.
But then came the reply early in the second half and I could only see things going one way, in that we would be under the cosh yet again.
We really do seem to be a confidence team, don’t we?
We got the first goal and you could see things improve after we started off playing long to Benteke; something that had me moaning like crazy. Why do we do that when the ethos is supposed to be about passing?
Whatever, Albion got the goal back and we basically collapsed again.
The confidence seemed to ebb out of us and we played too deep again. Same as I have done for many of the games this season, I’ve been looking for Lambert to be raving mad and telling the team to push out. I didn’t see it today.
We’re basically poor when we sit back and you just know we’re going to concede at some stage.
All that said, I’d have taken a point today.
I don’t think Lambert got the subs that far off, if Delph is indeed injured, but I see that as two points lost today.
And I have a feeling they might prove very expensive.
We should have seen the game out when we were 2-0 up, but that was a good point, to take us out of the drop zone, and instill a bit of confidence in the side when they look at the first half performance.
To those that say the cups don’t matter, what utter dross.
If we can repeat anything near that first half effort on Tuesday we will blow Bradford away and be on our way to Wembely, hopefully to play a team that we have taken four points from this season.
Then Friday night is a chance to get through to the 5th round, and a few beers around Shoreditch.
Things are looking up, surely ?
U sound lacking in confidence Vaze!
And Shoreditch isn’t a patch on what it was ten years ago…
Good post Vaze,
Just a couple of posing questions to the negative posters here ( you all know who you are).
1. Did any of you predict a Villa win?
2 Would you have taken a point away from home in a Derby Match before the game?
3. Saints came back from 2 down against the Champions of Europe on Wed night.
4. We out the bottom 3.
5. Don’t know why I let the negative posters wind me up, you are not real supporters anyway as I know of a few who don’t attend the matches.
You have no right to say who is and who isn’t a real supporter.As for your fake positivity just so you can say in not negative.The whole debarcle at AVFC at the moment is far from positive.
1.We have an owner who won’t invest in the club when it clearly needs it most
2.The chance we might go down is not positive at all.
3.A manager who is struggling to find his feet.
4.Some players cannot compete at prem level.
Time to get your head out your arse mate you are not realistic.UTV.
I think he is being realistic JD. And I think you’re panicking.
No mate we have got an owner who won’t invest now
We have got a chance of relegation
Our manager is struggling
We have got players who can’t compete at this level
All true
Also JD in the unlikely event we did stay up then what? Same again next season and however long Lerner is here. Why bother and don’t give me the loyalty bollicks as I supported us since the old 3rd division so iv earned the right to criticise this shit
Also we are 4 points off being bottom with a minus 25 goal diff worst ion the prem
9 points worse if than mcleish at this time last yr if u inc gd. And lambert is still here with the majority if supporters behind him why?
Well said JD
Mate honestly I think Lambert is still here because most people recognise him as an up and coming manager and villa is a big job and this was always on the cards this season.Also may be some now think we where hasty on AM and realise AVFC is in bad shape worse than we thought and a manager needs more time than a season relegation always was a possibility as Lerner is not investing properly at the moment.Stay up and maybe things will get better and Lerner Invests.
Up and coming isn’t good enough for what we have to do now mate. We need someone who has the necessary experience to build a good structure to the club then we can have an up and coming manager. Just because he us young dosnt mean he is up and coming. We all drive mcleish out the club and thou he wasn’t ideal I’d swap lambert for him tomor. If I get slagged for saying that I really don’t care mate
Keep with lambert , even if we go down . Who else is there . Love Benteke , but so will the big teams
That’s the worry Mary he will be off like a rat up a drain pipe in the summer as he was angling for a sky 4 move the moment he came. Though we should get 15-20 m for him but fed up of us losing our best players no wonder we are struggling.
To both JD and Ooh ah,
I have every right to say that someone who does not attend the games is not a supporter and ps why did you both not bother to answer the other points that I made.
1. Did any of you predict a Villa win?
2 Would you have taken a point away from home in a Derby Match before the game?
Finally a new question, why are you so negative?
Hi mate if u look on fri post comments u will see I did predict a win really thought wed beat them tbh. A point is a good result but not against a team where u go 2.0 up play them of the park in the first half then play completely crap 2nd half and let them bk into it conceding yet again from a corner how many mire times. Why dosnt lamberk work in this in training? Also iv supported villa home and away when we were in old 3rd division how many if today’s villa fans wud do that? I go to around 50% of games home and away but can’t go to everyone because if finances and Personnal reasons. In your book anyone that can’t afford to go everygame can’t be a supporter. I am negative because the team deserve it. When we beat Liverpool I was extremely positive and have put up positive posts when we have done well. If u bother to look u will c I’m telling the truth. If we had held in yesterday I would have been mega positive trust me
If we are mates,
First things first, thats the first I have seen you saying you go to games, just recall the statement about you not renewing your season ticket.
Second any team can get back into a game, hence my point about Saints coming back against Chelski only in the last week.
It can be and is frustrating supporting Villa, but whilst not totally disagreeing about the 2nd half, why can some people and not just you actually say Great 1st half performance we need more of the same, oh and we are out of the bottom 3.
Anyway best of luck to you and the villa, never know we may bump into each other on Tues night when hopefully we will be singing ourselves Hoarse (and I don’t mean a Tescos beefburger)
Yep just because I havnt renewed st dosnt mean I don’t go. There are thousands if supporters who go most weeks and havnt got a st. Can’t wait for tue think we will win on the night. Like u say lots if positives on first half if we can play like that for 90 mins then fair enuf.
Not everybody can be a season ticket holder mate as for me I attend when I can afford it as I go with my lad and when work commitments let me.I expect anything from derby games mate and from2-0 up at half time we should of seen them off but as I said it was a derby game.As for my negativity as you put it I just state facts and there is not a fat lot to be positive about baring a possible trip to Wembley which would be fantastic.I have seen a relegation as I am 41 and from a long line of kingstanding villians as far back as my great grandad and we are in the worst shape we have been in a very long time.Our goal diff is shocking worst in the perm prob our worst ever,Some players are just not perm quality,our manager is having to struggle because our owner won’t invest these are not positive times so quit with the I have something to be pspositive about as I was one who tried to stay positive under McLeish maybe I need something to be positive about.UTV …keep it real.
Again spot on JD
Anyone know where given went?
Probably ill, along with Weimann.
There’s a lot of it about of late.
Need someone in ASAP.. our midfield is so weak.. need to get in TWO in CM asap.. But we aren’t linked to anyone at all…
Check out the 1935/36 season for a comparison with this one. Villa were ever present members of the First Division from day 1 in 1888.
We lost at home 0-7 to The Baggies, 1-7 to Arsenal and 2-7 to Grimsby Town. We won away at Sunderland the Champions that season and at 3 of the other top sides. It was a roller coaster season like no other before or since and Villa could still have stayed up with wins instead of draws in the last few games. Goal difference was not important, points were. Beating the other relegation rivals would have kept us up. A lesson from history Mr Lambert.
Er, I think Lambert wanted to win not draw? Be fair to him we have never looked like playing for draws.
We got an important point. Just need to focus on getting 3 against Newcastle now. They’re on a pretty poor run themselves. Let’s try to stay positive and get behind the players.
Another look back at History. 1948/49 season. After 25 games. W6 D4 L15 – 16 points (only 2 for a win then). 22nd and rock bottom with 17 games to play. The final table shows W16 D10 L 16 – 42 points. That’s the sort of run we need now 10 wins 6 draws and 1 loss. Villa finished 10th that season behind champions Portsmouth.
so we have fans thinking playing one half of decent football and losing a 2-0 lead is a ‘good point’ against a team in equally as bad form as ourselves.
It is not, when down in relegation trouble you have to do what Reading have done and come from behind and WIN, draws are nothing, did we not learn that last season ?
Every time another game goes without a win then obviously less games to get the 5 wins we need.
Exactly. There is not as many games as people think- take out Man Utd/ City/ Arsenal/ Chelsea and Everton all of which even the happy clappers would admit that we have zero chance of winning and there are 10 games. We need to win a minimum of half of them. IMO The 4 points dropped against Swansea and Albion in Jan, will cost us in May.
indeed just as all the Mcleish draws nearly cost us last season …
At 2-0 up you should never draw games and esp against a team as unthreatening as West Brom were in the first half
then we sat back, not helped by Delph’s injury but we mentality weak
So if we need to win half of them.. Then QPR Wigan Reading need to win 6. Without looking at the fixtures I’m sure they have got tough fixtures left too..
or more likely we need three of them to win less than us, lets look after ourselves first and foremost.
We blew two valuable points yesterday, ok we scraped out of the relegation places but that does not matter at this stage.
When you consider we have to play everyone but Saints around us then it is not looking good. Saints did the double over us, Wigan thrashed us, we scraped a win against Reading, a draw against a winless QPR side who are now much better …
then u can see the problem if not blind.
Agreed mate
WBA are a good team playing at home ianrobo. That draw is the difference between us being 19th and 17th, so it does matter. Grrrrr…Reading…Win….I think that was the aim you nob….you always use such silly and simple logic in your hysterical posts.
FFS we had this every time Mcleish got a draw, good draws they were said, bollocks
Look at the recent form, West Brom just as bad as us, losing to shite like Fulham and Reading, there for the taking and we bottled it. I said on Friday I thought we would win and the over hyping of West Brom totally bemuses me ..
no matter who you against losing 2-0 leads is bad
Yeah but maybe chill out a bit? Football’s football, it happens. A draw IS better than nothing. Nobody’s happy we lost a two goal lead but it does happen.
so when you know we need 5 wins to survive you know blowing golden chances like that are a killer …
by the time we get to play Newky they will have new players, is a draw a good one against them ?
Agree mate if we were comfortably mid table then I mite except it a bit better but those 2 points that we threw away and we did throw them away could be the difference between us staying up and going down. As always the defence self destructed and that was with our so called best ch back. We are fucked
He is easily our best CB. You should probably give that one a rest now.
Exactly what’s the point in playing well for half a game FFs. Shows how low our expectations are
for fans to think it was a ‘good point’ against West Brom FFS it shows it all about our sad sorry state we are now in.
(You two are hilarious)
You two being hilarious shows how low we’ve sunk and the state of the world being shit and full of idiots
(just joking)
Fair do’s to WBA, they came out all guns blazing on the second half and that put us on the back foot. Though we did put a few attacks together in the second half. So we won the first half and they won the 2nd, a point each was a fair result. But on Tuesday we can pick up the first half form, be strong in the second half and then it’s Wembley here we come. Keep lifting the confidence repeating the WBA performance and we will win games. We are in control of our own premier League survival.
Mate you are one of these people that if we get to wembley u think everything will be alright. Fuck the cup it’s worth jack shit if we go down. How we do in the league is what determines a club. All a wembley performance will do us give us a gud day out at rip if prices and paper over the cracks
That’s LOSER TALK!!
Oohahh not reaching wembley will be have more affect on us going down then staying up.. The psychological affect will be massive either way….
Disagree lionheart wembley is not Imp in the grand scheme of things. Yes if we stay up and win the cup then that’s a bonus. However I can’t c us beating Swansea or Chelsea in final anyway. The ques is would u swap a wembley visit and win at millwall for 3 points v Newcastle. I certainly wouldn’t.
Ooh ah mate i have said all along winning league games more important than a cup especaiey in the situation we find ourselfs in.
Explain to me please how losing to Bradford is beneficial to Villa……!!??
It isn’t, please do not listen the Chuckle brothers.
Disagree mate – If we manage to pull it around against Bradford, will give us a huge confidence boost – Losing that one could kill the already fragile metal strength.
My point is, if we strengthen our second half performance whilst building on the brilliant first half, we will be safe in the league. Going to Wembley is a bonus, as is progress in the FA Cup. Those extra games can help improve performances and build confidence. And as far as getting a draw in the derby, well even the manure lost a lead in the last minute!
The difference is utd conceded to a good spurs side in last minute and it was a one of. Utd very very rarely concede late and are usually the ones scoring last min goals. It was a one of for them who are still 5 points clear at the top where we are 4 points clear from the bottom.
have the geordies sacked pardew
Nope and they will not, he is perfect cover for Ashley
They will if he gets them in the bottom 3 guarantee it. Though he as at least earned himself some credit due to last season which is why he has not been sacked.
Didn’t Lambert earn himself some credit for last season too? I presume there’s a veiled comparison there. I think finishing 12th with Norwich in their first prem season and having very little money to spend is pretty comparable to Newcastle last year.
But that was with another team. On the flip side we gave mcleish no credit for winning the cup for the noses and bit for injuries wud if kept then up
Your mentality is strange to say the least Ian.
Yes, a draw after being two up is disappointing.
On the positive side, how good were we first half, going two up and if Lichaj could have slotted home his excellent chance it would have been game over I’d say.
On the negative side, yes, when Brunt scored, you could sense both on the pitch and with the crowd that here we go again.
I am happy with a point, it takes us out of the bottom three. A win would have been delightful, but it wasn’t to be.
Albion have beaten Liverpool, Everton and Chelsea at home this season, they didn’t beat us.
Many posters yesterday were predicting humiliation and a heavy defeat. Is a point so bad ?
It’s like when you were bleating on that the penalty for Southampton didn’t make a difference in that game. They won 1-0 because of it !
no it is not strange, whether against West Brom or Man U then losing 2-0 leads are bad. Yes on paper West Brom look good but I have seen nothing from them thios season that I would be worried about.
I was saying before the game how the recent results for them are more a measure of what they really are. As usual some over played how good they are and this somehow justifies losing a 2-0 comfortable lead through the same old problems we have seen for three seasons now.
What we are is mentally weak – Had Liverpool scored one of their easy early chances they would have probably battered us like Chelsea did instead of the 3-1 win we got.
We have missed Petrov massively to calm the ship instead of everyone panicing if we conceed a goal – Happens in every game now. This is where PL’s buy young/inexperinced blah blah players falls flat on it’s face if there isn’t a few Tony Adams type players around you giving you a rocket/calming you down when needed.
This problem should have been addressed in the Summer.
Means nothing mate even we beat Liverpool, man cityl and nearly beat utd dosnt mean we are a good team. They were just one of performances. WBA have found their level now they are top ten team not a top 6 team
not even top ten, they will finish in the lower half of the table, so many average players which sums up the dire state of the PL that they were ever so high
Ian as long as you realise that every post you make is full of hyperbole then it is ok.
my view is that they are nothing but average and slowly sinking, thats not hypebole at all. Losing ot the likes of Fulham and Reading shows they are not that great