When you look at this window do you notice something obvious ?
Yep you guessed it there has been no real moves at all for any clubs. Ignoring loans then the following clubs have not made any cash incoming deals as yet
Arsenal, Blackburn, Bolton, Man City, Man U, QPR, Stoke, Sunderland, Wigan
Of the rest then the only significant deals were
Cahill – Chelsea
Gibson – Everton
Cisse – Newcastle (biggest deal)
Howson – Norwich
Of which the total is a combined reported £21M
It is really pitiful and whilst we may see some last minute moves (Sunderland anyone !!) this could be the lowest winter window since it was introduced. Is this a sign of the bubble bursting, a sign of the true economic times ?
Yes I think it is. The empty plastic seats at many grounds tells it’s own story. We saw falsified attendance figures and actually clubs inflate by including those not there but brought a ticket. In fact if the figures were actually announced for people actually attending, just how low would some attendances have been ?
Of course what keeps the PL afloat is Sky and they are benefiting. As the squeeze hits more and more of us then it is becoming much cheaper to pay for Sky and they are seeing subscriptions still rise. So in fact are we seeing the steady emptying of our grounds and will this force prices on the gate down (at last) ?
I would conclude that the bubble has burst, with the obvious exception of say Man City then wages are coming down at a lot of the clubs. Two out of three of the promoted clubs have strict wage limits and scales imposed. Of course at Villa the wage issue has dominated since March 2010 and we are doing the right thing in my view.
I think for clubs making the right calls now they will survive for clubs not making the right calls will we finally see a PL club go into administration ?
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Where’s my razor blade the end of the world is nigh,
Yeah all the teams are strapped for cash therefore not spending..
we’re all DOOMED i say DOOMED!!!!!
for clubs not making the right calls will we finally see a PL go into administration ?
This is what is required, imo.
Only then will the relevant eyes be opened.
The game is truly f*cked and it’s why I can’t even be bothered to put up any kind of debate in your previous thread Ian.
It doesn’t matter what us fans think, imo: there are still plenty in the game making big money that imo is in no way at all justified.
This was always gonna happen ian, it all started with forest 1million player and got to 50million for torres you cant keep spending like that and not expect tons of debt, the prob with clubs they spend to get a small amount of suscess and destroy the club in the process
so would you rather we spent money and bankrupted ourselves or played youth players that we have developed, you cant have it both ways
No i would not, i was talking about the state of football was not asking villa to do the same
Portsmouth were in the prem when they went into administration
Administration, wound up, it’s all too much.
Ok, the game needs someone to go totally tits up then.
I’d assume that’s what Ian means.
correct but that was a totally different situation, I am thinking not of them or even a blackburn but a big team
The straw that broke the camels back for me was Torres for £50m and then Carrol for £35m (even Downing for £18mil… suckers). One was a burnt out husk of a player, the other just what is basically a fat Peter Crouch with no skill and a pony tail I would like to chop off, make into a noose and hang him with (slight overexaggeration but hopefully you get the comical effect). This to me proved clubs had more money than sense and I think it really opened mine and other peoples eyes to the ridicuolous money being spent on players that are essentially marketing tools or clothes horses. Im glad were looking to youth in the future who may actually give a monkeys about the club they play for rather that the badge kissing chest thumping of mercenaries we have got or could get in in the future. Viva la revolution!!
I think u have a gud point. Without sounding xenophobic I think the introduction of foreigners r us has ruined the game. Yes they are more entertaining than most of English payers but they really don’t care about the clubs they for. Tevez, good player thou he is, sums up the mercenary money grabbing attitude of most players from abroad. Yes I know some English players are just as bad but think the foreign influx and sky tv have created these monsters. Though going back to the 70s there was no one more mercenary and money grabbing than Trevor Francis but it has got a lot worse since the sky bore took over.
It’s not just the transfer fees it’s the players wages Rooney 250 grand a week, your average common or garden variety player what 40/50/60 grand per,totally immoral. And as for it’s only a short career bullshit, well become a plumber if you want longevity in your chosen profession.
Player$ are greedy wankers, they may hav short playing careers but then they can become managers, agents, boring commanters, put their ugly faces on betting shops and talkin even more money
Money turns people into soulless individuals. Whether you look at bankers, conservative politicians, dictators, footballers. Money is the root of all evil. It’s not just foreigners, English footballers are just as bad – none of them have any loyalty. With the odd exception it is the same for all of those people. Look at David Cameron and his mates – they only care about themselves and their rich mates. And how can anyone who gets paid enormous bonuses ( bankers, footballers ) sleep at nigh lt when they know there are people who can’t even put food on the table.
Sorry – got a bit carried away there. Point being, money has ruined our beautiful game!!!!
Sorry this is a football blog and you’re trying to make political points? I voted conservative last election because Labour completely lost the plot. If it wasn’t for the conservatives steadying the ship we would have lost out AAA debt rating and been quickly on our way to becoming the next Greece or Ireland. Clueless Labour voters got us into this mess in the first place with massive debt based ape do g and mass migration. I’m ashamed I voted for them and so should everyone else who did.
Spending
If any of that was actually true you may have had a point.
Just proved my point about Labour voters. Labours first term they followed conservative spending plans and government debt fell to 30% GDP it just hit one trillion pounds due to labours massive expansion of the public sector in there second term. I’m ashamed I voted for them twice now Tony 12 million a year Blair is laughing all the way to the bank while the ‘selfish’ conservatives try to balance the books and stop the country going bankrupt. Get a clue.
Labour have more sense now than that idiot cameron. Its basic common sense really Cameron way cut fast won’t work as the private sector isn’t ready to take on the amount being cut, so that means the people who are being made redundant have gone from paying income tax and also spending money in shops (the private sector) and contributing vat so that stops the private sector growing to having to go on the dole where they are taking money from the government but giving nothing back making the debt bigger. That is why we are now heading back into reccession which will probabily be worse than the last one and we have every chance of going the same way as greece. That is why I didn’t vote conservative because I saw this coming its just a shame cameron managed to fool people like you
Every year we are spending 10% of GDP more than we have. How long can this continue? The answer is not long before we need a European/IPF bailout (which might never happen due to the size of the country). Lower GDP due to the cuts is a much better route than the government going insolvant and government borrowing costs and interest rates soaring. If labour hadn’t wasted so much in the good years these cuts would not have to be made now. In fact we could increase public spending. But Gordon Brown kept saying he had eliminated ‘boom and bust’. So deluded.
Love the way you slated it and then got dragged in
labour aren’t much better, agreed, especially Tony Blair. My point on football and the Tories is that Tories are all about capitalism – which is he same thing as has ruined football. But yes I accept the point that maybe I should stick to all things villa, we have enough to divide us without dragging politics into the equation!
an interesting political point but the most capitialist society on this planet runs it’s sports as the fairest, equal distribution and yes communist in nature sports on the planet
remember for them it should be ‘on any given sunday’ you can win, they want every single match to mean something and to be competitive.
Good point, hadn’t thoughtof it like that. If we could adopt the wage structure they have in American football it would make our game immense again!
Labour = capitalist state to fund the public sector, companies likie Tesco’s being allowed to buy up everywhere, banks being given too much money. Cameron has been a weak PM in regards to being tory he has not cut hard enough, for the private sector to grow we need lower taxes for lower taxes we need bigger cuts. Labour are no longer about the little man if anything the Tories are more so, all of them are fucking half wit idiots. Vote independant MP’s without ulerior motives.
Politics is a load of bollocks and none of the parties are true to what they stand for bunch of wankers every last one of them.
Big Eck for PM
Best way to go tell that to the hard working people with families to support who he’s made redundant who can’t get jobs cuz he has cut too fasttoo soon. Surely the best way would be having people contributing tax instead of being on the dole. Or he should just sort out the real cause of the problem, the bankers but then that would be upsetting his mate and the torries core voters so he won’t do that.
Labour were awful, and as much as i dont like the Tories i think they are doing whatever any other government would be doing, british politics works on a consultative basis so a lot of the changes that have happened are in fact Labour policies or are headed by Labour Peers, this is a football blog and tbh Politics is now a game of BS and spin. The student thing was a Labour policy from start to finish, reading The Sun will not give you any political acumen
Sorry i started a sentence and got distracted; this is a football blog about Aston villa and that is stressful enough, I avoid politics because it is a load bollocks all of them are as bad as each other.
I wonder what David camerons opinion is on Big Eck?
I think it had to happen… Man City laughing all the way no doubt but surely this will have to result in dropping wages eventually? Then you would imagine Man City will simply follow suit by still paying over everybody else’s heads but being able to also reduce theirs in line with everybody else? A kind of downwards spiral which will ultimately be dictated by how much the top foreign clubs are willing to pay the top players.
It could of course however be a sign that (some) teams are getting concerned by the new Uefa regulations coming in?! Shame some are clearly allowed to ridicule the whole process!
The rights get negotiated again soon and sky will not get it all there own way espn and also al jazerha want it i thought the bottom would drop out but if these lot go head to head more money could be involved … my 480 season ticket don’t go to far i have said for while football is going to pot loads if reasons
do people not just watch and enjoy the game anymore you say football is fucked because of the players and the fee’s and the money but look in the mirror!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just enjoy the game i bet when you were ten you didnt let the rest of the crap interest you in this way idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I was 10 it was about £1.50 to go down to a match, players drove around in ford escorts, at the beginning of a season “anything” was possible and not just this eternal mid table mediocrity, the days when teams were built not bought. Now with match tickets at £25-50 a pop and players earning a week more than your average Joe earns per annum and give what in return? A couple of decent seasons and they are off to pastures new with the highest bidder.
Money has robbed us of our dreams of glories and as a consequence is in danger of Killing The Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs.
i think its the game in genral mate agents image rights look at figures today what its cost tevez so far this season villa have players who are not on that money a year.. there are lots of reasons its all gone a little bit mad the world is in a mess and until recently football thought it would avoid it its not agents players owners etc etc its a diffrent world we live in i mean image rights most playes when move or new contracts have better terms…i ahte to say it over the years people have said to many foregin players will affect our game it has in many ways and the bosman was a whole new situation that also changed the way footballw went.
Well I think even Man City said they aren’t buying any more players. It will be interesting to see what Liverpool does if they don’t qualify for the Champions League, particularly with the amount of money they’ve spent the last two years. It can’t be endless.
Man City surely have to get rid of loads because of FFP but they are stuck because they put players on too high a wage, tough.
get ready for a takeover
Chasrack you can’t just leave a comment like that, speculation? or do you know something we don’t????????????????
Rumours seem to be getting out of hand, i noted yesterday that someone who claims they are not ITK but trust the person who told them that a delegation is arriving for a 3 hour meeting at VP from Qatar on Thursday.
I personally do not believe this will happen but i know that people have got it wrong about QIA in regards to what they own, I think Qatar Sports investment owns PSG, QIA own Malaga and Qatar Petroleum were looking at Villa in November, these are all different entities and ran by different parts of the same large mega rich family.
Like I said i dont think it will happen but it can be done within the legalities of the FIFA rules of club owvership.
Lerner is here to stay, although sponsorship and investment is not out of the question
If the transfer market has taken a dive that is good news for us if and when we rebuild in the summer. I always thought if Lerner had a plan it was to cash in on young and downing and wait until the market deflates before investing again. Possibly wishful thinking but we’ll see.
If the football bubble is deflating (rather than bursting completely) then that is a good thing, not a bad one. Perhaps we can have the game we love back then.
A number of squads are looking to let go of some players, I think Everton, QPR and Sunderland hold the key to any movements, along with Mancini stating he will not be buying anymore players until his squad has been reduced of Tevez, Onuha and Bridge, I think we will see a lot of loan moves on the final day